Does everyone paint over their canvas about 50 times before they are satisfied?
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Permalink Reply by vicki stark on -
Thanks, I'm glad to know someone else shares in my "many attempts to get it there" approach! I just finished one I have painted I know 10 times (no exaggeration) and finally I have that"now that is more like it" feeling, happy with the finished result! The paint is still wet at the moment.
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Permalink Reply by Mary Jane Chadbourne on -
You are not alone, believe me!! I have "reworked" canvas several times before I am happy...all I can say is thank God for gesso and strong canvas!
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Permalink Reply by crissi on -
yep i paint over to, even over the ones i do like as they hang in my studio and i get fed up with looking at them so many of my textural works have had many a colour change
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Permalink Reply by Jan Jackson on -
my husband always says that whoever buys my paintings really gets at least three!!! there is usually that many paintings gone wrong underneath the top one
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Permalink Reply by Wendy Johnson on -
I have even put so many layers on that I have been able to use a power sander to take back a couple of layers of paint and texture.Which gives a cool effect too by the way ;)
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Permalink Reply by Mary Jane Chadbourne on
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That is an awesome tip....thanks Wendy!
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Permalink Reply by Janet Stevens on -
I do this all the time. I get sick of a pic and/ or there is no canvas here so I re-invent something.
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Permalink Reply by angela englund on -
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't :)
Its very satisfying having all those layers though. Its like having a pile of blankets on top of you, all nice and cozy.
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Permalink Reply by Glenda on
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Oh yeah, I do this as well - often. And it's not because I need the canvas or get tired of looking at an older work - it's because I keep going over and over whatever it is I'm trying to get right, until I get it right. Gesso is my friend.
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Permalink Reply by Kathryn Uster on -
This morning, I received my email bi-weekly newsletter from Canadian artist Robert Genn
http://www.painterskeys.com/ (many good quotes, tips and letters from struggling artists)
The title:"Should I Destroy Them?"
She writes, "Do you recommend painting over acrylic paintings or should they be kept for reflection? Since I've been at it for over 40 years, I have lots of paintings that used to be keepers, but which no longer show my present painting skills, my likes or my style. I wonder why I kept many of them. Should I destroy them? Or should I use them for supplies? I sometimes like the effect of painting over, but mostly this makes me lose my spontaneity and interferes with my current painting approach."
Robert Genn replies,"Every so often we need to get busy and chuck--just in case some executor or offspring makes the mistake of thinking something's okay. There's enough bad art in the world already and we don't want to add to it by leaving substandard stuff out and about. I don't know about you, Roscoe, but that reflection you mentioned can be a living nightmare as well. We grow. We get better.
Regarding painting over, it's a personal thing. Some painters don't mind an underlying failure and accept it for any texture it may provide. On the other hand, many painters feel a failed or flawed image jinxes a canvas forever. No matter how obliterated by overlying gesso, it's down there yelling that you're a lousy painter."
He then states, "A virgin canvas with a favourite ground has a kind of unsullied decency that a used canvas can never have. As spontaneity is a valued asset, dump the interference. Now for something completely different: Some artists have a sense of preciousness about every squiggle or splodge they make. They hang onto stuff with tenacity, even building archives to rival The Ark of the Covenant. I've always put this down to poor toilet training, but it may also have something to do with ego blow or the expectation of a place in the history of art. Curiously, this sense of intrinsic brilliance is a condition frequently rampant among artists whose work is of low challenge or difficult for anyone to criticize, including themselves."
"Esoterica: If you do paint new over old acrylics, make sure you remove any final protective coat before you lay down new gesso or other primer. Ordinary household ammonia takes off most final acrylic varnishes. Before you prime, you'll need to sand the surface as well. Sometimes a sanded surface yields something new and interesting--then you're back to the same old problem." Robert Genn from his Painters Keys. Go to: http://clicks.robertgenn.com/switch-swatch.php to read more letters. I have found him enlightening since the late '90's. {+:
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Permalink Reply by Renee Iverson on -
Gesso is my friend! I think it would be nice to have a record or my progress, but I have no room to store everything! Plus I don't like to keep looking at paintings that bug me. On the other hand, sometimes if I store it for just a while I have a much clearer idea if I want to keep it and continue working on and what has lost all magic for me. At that point I'm ready to slap on the gesso and move on. I usually start my large paintings over at least two if not three times to get the layering order right.
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Permalink Reply by Suzette Morrow on -
I was painting with a group of really well established artists on Wednesday and this subject came up thre as well. I was surprised that even most of the hardcore watercolor guys said they use both sides of their watercolor paper for paintings. Everyone agreed that the more you do the better you get and the cost of materials requires creative recycling. One gentleman said, "If it sits still long in my studio, it gets painted again." I sure hope he does not have a studio cat like mine. He might paint it.
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